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Poster: glenn Date: May 31, 2005 4:31pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: SMART FTP HELP

yeah, I know faqs sometimes have more info than you need and can be hard to deal with... just help someone else out when you can.
Q: how do you upload? what i mean is that, i have a bunch of shows that might not be on the archive that i would like to up load and share.

A: first, check to see if the show is already available on the archive, use the search box on

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php

and make sure the menu box next to the search field is set to 'live music archive'

and you might want to look this page over first:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-contribute.php?stage=upload_info

(that's a direct link, but if you need to find it, the link to that page is on the left side of the Internet Archive>Audio page ( http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php ), it's labelled 'arrange an upload' )
This page is the first stop on the way to uploading to archive.org... lots of important info there on organising and naming files to work well with the archive's facilities... as well as instructions on where to upload to...

Q: do i need hardware to plug my tape deck in?
A: you'll need the tape deck of course, and depending on what kind of sound card you have, you will need an appropriate cable that fits into the line out or perhaps headphone jack on the tape deck...

best would be if you have a really good soundcard that can convert analog to digital well... unless its a digital deck, which is even better, I assume for now that its analog.

the above answer will be considered to be way oversimplified by some.. if you want a more thorough answer, look at some of the FAQs on etree.org, they are pretty well written and cover more of the answer than I will be able to off the top of my head. in addition to the links above, see:

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

now etree is very very much concerned with source quality, so bear that in mind... not everything on the etree site will apply in general to archive.org, but that's a real good place to look to start with. lots more info than I could give.

Q:can anyone upload into the archive?
A:yes, generally anyone can upload, if the uploader has permission from the copyright holder to do so... this includes if they give blanket permission to the community, you yourself don't have to get more permission than that. Just respect the owner's property rights, and don't upload something they wouldn't want uploaded.

an exception is the grateful dead, there is the GDIAP grateful dead internet archive project.. as I understand it, they are sorting out quality issues, to get the best sources uploaded first, and have aske d for no Grateful Dead uploads at this time... I think that moratorium is still in effect (someone correct me please?)

The uploading part is pretty easy, there is a tutorial on the smartftp site:

http://www.smartftp.com/support/howto/

and the 'uploading by global queue' section is the one that will most resemble the way you are downloading, probably best for you I think... the first link 'View' is a link to a javascript-and-flash version. I can't link directly to it because its a javascript link, just click on 'view' under the Transfers >Upload - Global Queue section...

I don't use flash on this machine so I can't see that page, but I think it is like a movie that walks you through it. If you have flash installed and can see that page, it might be better than:

http://www.smartftp.com/support/howto/upload.global.php

which has all the info as well with no javascript and no flash.

I think I'll leave you with that, and let you post your next question here again if you get stuck... and if you don't get an answer here pretty quickly, it would be ok to email me:
drglenn(-'A'T'-)dr.com is my address, just replace the stuff in the middle there with @. And write it down, cause I'm not going to leave my email address here for eternity, I'll edit it out of this post in a few days.

You probably can find all the info you need on those pages I referenced above, so look them over.

Feel free to keep asking questions here if you have read the FAQs and can't find the answer. Since you are downloading right now, I think it will be easy to figure out the mecanics of uploading files but *pay*close*attention*to the info on directory structure and filenaming, if you name a file wrong or arrange your folders wrong, it could be a pain to deal with. My first upload took quite a while because I did that part wrong like twice. Had to upload a huge folder 3 times if I recall. The ftp transfer using smartftp is really going to be easy, the hard parts will be putting the file into digital format (the first time only, after that, no problem) and getting your file structure just right.

So read all you can, but be sure to relax, take a break, stretch etc... don't get all clenched up, it won't help.

good luck, let us know if you need more help


This post was modified by glenn on 2005-05-31 23:31:08